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	<title>Comments on: Why the Hand-Wringing over #twittergate? Because We&#8217;re Not All Journalists.</title>
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		<title>By: Google, Apple and AT&#38;T: Enough Blame to Go Around for Everyone- The SiliconANGLE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google, Apple and AT&#38;T: Enough Blame to Go Around for Everyone- The SiliconANGLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] – rough afternoon for someone who doesn’t consider himself a journalist. Sometimes, when you have a deep-seated curiosity on something, you just can’t help yourself from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weekly Round Up 18.07.09 &#171; The Seldom Seen Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Round Up 18.07.09 &#171; The Seldom Seen Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HQ. You can read my thoughts on this here, but It is worth adding that there has been a lot of further opinion given, and this is something that is set to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Furrier</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Furrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about servicing your audience.  We don&#039;t do trainwrecks..we do value creation and collaboration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s all about servicing your audience.  We don&#39;t do trainwrecks..we do value creation and collaboration.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark &#39;Rizzn&#39; Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://siliconangle.com/blog/2009/07/17/why-the-hand-wringing-over-twittergate-because-were-not-all-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark &#39;Rizzn&#39; Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no upside to the general public for selling stolen documents only danger of hurting people and their families whose stake (and life) is based upon the success or failure of Twitter (e.g. employees, partners, ..etc).&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that point is debatable, based on your level of cynicism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For instance, if you take the Rupert Murdoch approach to journalism, as long as there&#039;s a public interest in watching trainwrecks, then there&#039;s a public service being performed.  As most of the execs at FNC will tell you, Fox isn&#039;t a news network, it&#039;s an entertainment entity that&#039;s fueled by news and current events.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pageview blogging, as well as most other forms of Heritage Media, the product isn&#039;t the news or the journalistic service being performed (even though it&#039;s been elevated in recent history to the level of &quot;Fourth Estate&quot; and put on a pedestal).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The product is the audience.  The responsibility is to the advertisers.  The way you buy that product in bulk to sell to the advertisers is by being sensational, unique, useful or interesting.  The means really isn&#039;t important so long as the goal is accomplished.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any other bits of journalistic ethics imposed on the editorial employees are just arbitrary hoops the company sets on itself for the purposes of making the journey to profitability more challenging (and in some cases, making what they print and produce more palatable to the product / audience).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like I said, it&#039;s the cynical view held by most major news networks at the executive level.  I don&#039;t know Mike Arrington&#039;s personal views on how he performs his job, and if he&#039;s that cynical or if there&#039;s another more altruistic agenda in place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whatever the case is, it&#039;s worth re-iterating that we don&#039;t fall into either category here at SA.  We&#039;re not journalists, per se (though some of what we do might be considered an aspect of journalism), and we&#039;re not pageview driven and thus not beholden to treating our audience and community like a product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no upside to the general public for selling stolen documents only danger of hurting people and their families whose stake (and life) is based upon the success or failure of Twitter (e.g. employees, partners, ..etc).&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that point is debatable, based on your level of cynicism.</p>
<p>For instance, if you take the Rupert Murdoch approach to journalism, as long as there&#39;s a public interest in watching trainwrecks, then there&#39;s a public service being performed.  As most of the execs at FNC will tell you, Fox isn&#39;t a news network, it&#39;s an entertainment entity that&#39;s fueled by news and current events.</p>
<p>Pageview blogging, as well as most other forms of Heritage Media, the product isn&#39;t the news or the journalistic service being performed (even though it&#39;s been elevated in recent history to the level of &#8220;Fourth Estate&#8221; and put on a pedestal).</p>
<p>The product is the audience.  The responsibility is to the advertisers.  The way you buy that product in bulk to sell to the advertisers is by being sensational, unique, useful or interesting.  The means really isn&#39;t important so long as the goal is accomplished.</p>
<p>Any other bits of journalistic ethics imposed on the editorial employees are just arbitrary hoops the company sets on itself for the purposes of making the journey to profitability more challenging (and in some cases, making what they print and produce more palatable to the product / audience).</p>
<p>Like I said, it&#39;s the cynical view held by most major news networks at the executive level.  I don&#39;t know Mike Arrington&#39;s personal views on how he performs his job, and if he&#39;s that cynical or if there&#39;s another more altruistic agenda in place.</p>
<p>Whatever the case is, it&#39;s worth re-iterating that we don&#39;t fall into either category here at SA.  We&#39;re not journalists, per se (though some of what we do might be considered an aspect of journalism), and we&#39;re not pageview driven and thus not beholden to treating our audience and community like a product.</p>
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		<title>By: John Furrier</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Furrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Techcrunch is selling stolen documents and that is wrong in my opinion.  I understand why he did it but clearly he knew it was stolen.  Pageviews are the currency of which the reward is paid out in.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The difference between an email from an employee of Yahoo to a hacker stealing corporate secrets is huge.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no upside to the general public for selling stolen documents only danger of hurting people and their families whose stake (and life) is based upon the success or failure of Twitter (e.g. employees, partners, ..etc).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A peers and colleagues site like ours hopefully will have a &quot;peer review&quot; approach to servicing the audiences and participants.  That is not pageview based - it&#039;s based upon competing on &quot;value&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Techcrunch is selling stolen documents and that is wrong in my opinion.  I understand why he did it but clearly he knew it was stolen.  Pageviews are the currency of which the reward is paid out in.  </p>
<p>The difference between an email from an employee of Yahoo to a hacker stealing corporate secrets is huge.  </p>
<p>There is no upside to the general public for selling stolen documents only danger of hurting people and their families whose stake (and life) is based upon the success or failure of Twitter (e.g. employees, partners, ..etc).</p>
<p>A peers and colleagues site like ours hopefully will have a &#8220;peer review&#8221; approach to servicing the audiences and participants.  That is not pageview based &#8211; it&#39;s based upon competing on &#8220;value&#8221;.</p>
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