Comments on: Bang Bang: Cisco Dumps HP As Certified Partner HP Returns Fire With Deal with Qlogic http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/ Computer Science meets Social Science Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:10:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: HP Palm Analysis: HP Finalized Palm Acqusition – It’s All About SmartPhones and Edge Devices | SiliconANGLE http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-38046 HP Palm Analysis: HP Finalized Palm Acqusition – It’s All About SmartPhones and Edge Devices | SiliconANGLE Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:28:53 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-38046 [...] not forget about Cisco.  We all know the war is in full swing between Cisco and HP.  Cisco has been trying to be a consumer company in a big way.  The Palm deal gives HP the dream [...] [...] not forget about Cisco.  We all know the war is in full swing between Cisco and HP.  Cisco has been trying to be a consumer company in a big way.  The Palm deal gives HP the dream [...]

]]> By: Cisco Status Update – Analysis from Cisco Live – Adjacencies and Fierce Competition « Wikibon Blog http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-21631 Cisco Status Update – Analysis from Cisco Live – Adjacencies and Fierce Competition « Wikibon Blog Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:12:25 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-21631 [...] push into servers is also limiting who will partner with them (most notable in their divorce with HP).  Beyond the traditional data center, there is also the switch to the cloud that looms.  Cisco [...] [...] push into servers is also limiting who will partner with them (most notable in their divorce with HP).  Beyond the traditional data center, there is also the switch to the cloud that looms.  Cisco [...]

]]> By: SiliconANGLE — Blog — Cisco & Brocade Get the Smackdown: HP Selects QLogic for FCoE Switch Technology http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-21239 SiliconANGLE — Blog — Cisco & Brocade Get the Smackdown: HP Selects QLogic for FCoE Switch Technology Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:56:37 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-21239 [...] the HP Cisco war that we were the first to report is showing some movement and shaking up the pecking order of the industry. Just earlier in the week [...] [...] the HP Cisco war that we were the first to report is showing some movement and shaking up the pecking order of the industry. Just earlier in the week [...]

]]> By: SiliconANGLE — Blog — Performance Matters In Private Cloud & Stack Wars - Storage Traffic Important Part of Cloud Equation http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-19621 SiliconANGLE — Blog — Performance Matters In Private Cloud & Stack Wars - Storage Traffic Important Part of Cloud Equation Tue, 25 May 2010 15:26:46 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-19621 [...] to be a big part of the overall "pie".  One player in particular is QLogic - a company that I discovered a few months ago when QLogic shook the industry with a big move against Cisco in getting the HP deal for Fibrechannel over Ethernet switches [...] [...] to be a big part of the overall "pie".  One player in particular is QLogic – a company that I discovered a few months ago when QLogic shook the industry with a big move against Cisco in getting the HP deal for Fibrechannel over Ethernet switches [...]

]]> By: Infiniband: Extending Beyond HPC to Support Emerging Cloud Applications « Wikibon Blog http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-19606 Infiniband: Extending Beyond HPC to Support Emerging Cloud Applications « Wikibon Blog Tue, 25 May 2010 13:42:46 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-19606 [...] saw a similar dynamic with HP/Cisco/Brocade/QLogic as Silicon Angle’s John Furrier pointed out when he broke the story that Cisco was dumping HP as a preferred partner. Subsequently HP dumped [...] [...] saw a similar dynamic with HP/Cisco/Brocade/QLogic as Silicon Angle’s John Furrier pointed out when he broke the story that Cisco was dumping HP as a preferred partner. Subsequently HP dumped [...]

]]> By: CISCO & HP War? « Scale Network's Blog http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-13883 CISCO & HP War? « Scale Network's Blog Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:47:53 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-13883 [...] blog Silicon Angle broke the story that Cisco was dumping HP as a preferred partner. Cisco then was forced to respond by posting a blog on its web site [...] [...] blog Silicon Angle broke the story that Cisco was dumping HP as a preferred partner. Cisco then was forced to respond by posting a blog on its web site [...]

]]> By: What might it mean if Cisco Dumps HP As Certified Partner ? – Gestalt IT http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-13794 What might it mean if Cisco Dumps HP As Certified Partner ? – Gestalt IT Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:00:01 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-13794 [...] http://etherealmind.com An post as Silicon Angle claims that an internal memo is suggesting that Cisco is dumping HP as a partner. Bang Bang: Cisco Dumps HP As Certified Partner HP Returns Fire With Deal with Qlogic [...] [...] http://etherealmind.com An post as Silicon Angle claims that an internal memo is suggesting that Cisco is dumping HP as a partner. Bang Bang: Cisco Dumps HP As Certified Partner HP Returns Fire With Deal with Qlogic [...]

]]> By: You'll See http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-13691 You'll See Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:00:43 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-13691 UCS being great is almost irrelevant. I mean look at Cisco selling 14 year old 6500s, a facad of an IOS, and Network management thats sub-par. Its about relationships. People by from people and companies they believe wont let them down. HP has a decent solution and some of the best service in the world. By the way HP ditched Cisco a while ago so this is old news. Note HP's announcement of upgrading all their data centers world wide with 3Com. And, with EDS now ES, Cisco only stands to lose more customers that HP, Dell, and IBM were pushing to buy Cisco products. Cisco's UCS is a decent solution, but Cisco has proven over and over the best technology is not what will prevail. The best solution and support will win. Adios Cisco, UCS being great is almost irrelevant. I mean look at Cisco selling 14 year old 6500s, a facad of an IOS, and Network management thats sub-par. Its about relationships. People by from people and companies they believe wont let them down. HP has a decent solution and some of the best service in the world. By the way HP ditched Cisco a while ago so this is old news. Note HP’s announcement of upgrading all their data centers world wide with 3Com. And, with EDS now ES, Cisco only stands to lose more customers that HP, Dell, and IBM were pushing to buy Cisco products. Cisco’s UCS is a decent solution, but Cisco has proven over and over the best technology is not what will prevail. The best solution and support will win. Adios Cisco,

]]> By: JB http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-13685 JB Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:14:56 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-13685 Have you every compared the 2 blade solutions head to head? I have and it is hands down much easier for operations to provision and deploy using UCS. Scalability is the key, HP is legacy and complicated, Cisco is new and easy. Does HP have the ability to create something as simple and elegant as UCS? Is this what they are looking for with a closer partnership with Qlogic? What is a server? A bunch of parts made up from other vendors (BIOS, CPU, Memory, etc). What makes a blade server solution different? The management software. What makes UCS stand out above HP? The management software .... Have you every compared the 2 blade solutions head to head? I have and it is hands down much easier for operations to provision and deploy using UCS. Scalability is the key, HP is legacy and complicated, Cisco is new and easy. Does HP have the ability to create something as simple and elegant as UCS? Is this what they are looking for with a closer partnership with Qlogic?

What is a server? A bunch of parts made up from other vendors (BIOS, CPU, Memory, etc). What makes a blade server solution different? The management software. What makes UCS stand out above HP? The management software ….

]]> By: John Furrier http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/02/18/bang-bang-cisco-dumps-hp-as-certified-partner-hp-returns-fire-with-deal-with-qlogic/comment-page-1/#comment-13682 John Furrier Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:32:59 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/?p=13427#comment-13682 I think that you're angle is right now. Unless cisco has something up their sleeve (which I doubt) then they can't catch HP and IBM (and Dell). In following HP one thing many people don't realize is that HP has a very versatile sales force and with EDS they can really expand a chokehold on Cisco. I think that Cisco is putting way to much emphasis that they can upsell customers from the network position in the servers. That is not their core competency. HP can take a partnership approach and now has product leadership by forging deals in whitespaces like QLogic. Also go after important areas like with the 3com deal. I think Cisco is underestimating HP and the video from Cisco yesterday show's how "cocky" they are. Not sure the Cisco swagger can win the day here against HP. Another think when HP bought Compaq they retained majority of their key people on the server side and Compaq people had a swagger that thrives on competition. I think that we are seeing a bit of Compaq swagger and HP quality in action then add the EDS army. Very interesting. It's certainly fun to watch. I think that you’re angle is right now. Unless cisco has something up their sleeve (which I doubt) then they can’t catch HP and IBM (and Dell). In following HP one thing many people don’t realize is that HP has a very versatile sales force and with EDS they can really expand a chokehold on Cisco. I think that Cisco is putting way to much emphasis that they can upsell customers from the network position in the servers. That is not their core competency. HP can take a partnership approach and now has product leadership by forging deals in whitespaces like QLogic. Also go after important areas like with the 3com deal.

I think Cisco is underestimating HP and the video from Cisco yesterday show’s how “cocky” they are. Not sure the Cisco swagger can win the day here against HP. Another think when HP bought Compaq they retained majority of their key people on the server side and Compaq people had a swagger that thrives on competition. I think that we are seeing a bit of Compaq swagger and HP quality in action then add the EDS army. Very interesting.

It’s certainly fun to watch.

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