Mirantis has established themselves as the leaders in the OpenStack movement. In fact, SiliconANGLE founder John Furrier, in welcoming co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer Boris Renski to the live broadcast of theCUBE at this week’s #PerconaLive event, claimed Mirantis is the company called upon when companies simply want a truck to back up to their office and deploy widescale.

Joining Furrier in welcoming Renski to theCUBE was Wikibon principle research coordinator, Jeff Kelly. They began by asking Renski to detail and breakdown much of the news coming out of the Cloud over the past month. “When it comes to pure play definition of Cloud, it has been defined by Amazon,” stated Renski. “Cloud as a hosted Infrastructure as a Service,” he continued, “it is hard to deny that there isn’t a single leader and that leader is AWS. The others are playing catch up. Our work with OpenStack is helping them to play catch up.”

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One thing Renski noted with interest is that OpenStack is currently in a transition from being an open source Cloud to becoming a commoditization effort within the Cloud. “As the project continues to grow, it is starting to sprawl in different directions,” he noted. “OpenStack’s native Database as a Service, Trove, was announced in conjunction with this conference. OpenStack is no longer just for Cloud. It is becoming extremely disruptive.”

Turning the conversation to Platform as a Service, Renski stated he prefers not to think of ‘thinPaaS’ or ‘fatPaaS’ but rather prefers to think of a PaaS as being either more or less opinionated. “[On the] more opinionated side you have the Google App Engine where developers work in a much higher level of abstraction.” He says his idea of a less opinionated PaaS is sorely lacking but that there is movement in that direction.

Unlike proprietary development, however, open source doesn’t typically track against a release date so Renski was unable to offer an idea of when we could expect to see this new open source offering.

Furrier turned the conversation to OpenStack as it currently stands and asked Renski what he saw for the remainder of the year. “This year is an interesting year for OpenStack,” he stated. “Two years ago I predicted this would be the year of Enterprise adoption of OpenStack. SaaS web and service providers were the early adopters. This year we are seeing Enterprise adoption.”

OpenStack definitely has some technical gaps but, according to Renski, it’s still early in the game. “Upgrades and patching have been acute problems and are just now starting to be attacked by the community,” he said. “Now that they have built a product, operational concerns have to be addressed.”

“What’s your take on the developer community in the Cloud,” asked Furrier. While Renski conceded the API for OpenStack is not as popular as Amazon’s he believes the amount of traction around OpenStack means they can claim a solid second place. “With OpenStack, there are some (developers) that want to build the platform. If I was to comment on the developer traction around OpenStack community it would be hard to deny a hands down statement that developers building the Cloud are also building OpenStack. The majority shifted to OpenStack a long time ago.”

The OpenStack Cloud Summit to be held in just over a month in Atlanta, GA and being broadcast on SiliconANGLE’s theCUBE looks to have some exciting news already on the table, according to Renski. “We will see vendor announcements that will signal embrace of OpenStack by huge vendors,” he claimed. “Oracle is embracing OpenStack and that is huge because they are the Apple of software and proprietary. So, that’s huge.”