Companies that can’t afford to hire yet another developer might use new technology to get more mileage from the ones they have (and even some of their regular business folk). They can accomplish this with containers as-a-services and new visual app-building tools, according to Siddhartha Agarwal (pictured), vice president of product management and strategy at Oracle Corp.

The first step in this process is to make actual developers more productive with containers as-a-service featuring built-in orchestration.

“Containers are going to become much more popular than VMs [virtual machines],” Agarwal told John Furrier (@furrier), host of theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media’s mobile live streaming studio, during an interview at SiliconANGLE’s Palo Alto, CA, studio.

The challenge with containers at present is that orchestration can get tedious if developers have to handle it themselves. Developers would rather not worry about these things and focus more on the consumer-facing side of the app.

“That’s what we’re delivering with our Application-Container Cloud capabilities at both the PaaS layer and the iOS level,” he said.

Development democracy

With developers turning out apps more rapidly, the next stop is line-of-business people who can heed customer feedback and make alterations to apps themselves with the low-code visual development tools being built currently.

“These line of business folks are themselves going to become developers” in some sense, Agarwal explained.

Taken together, containers as-a-service for developers and visual app-building tools for line-of-business people mean the cycle of trial and error is greatly shortened.

Line-of-business people have always understood the value of the release-feedback-rerelease model, according to Agarwal. “They want to try 15 different things. And they know that only two or three of those will succeed,” he said, adding that now this path to perfection need not be so long.

Readers can go to Developer.Oracle.com to find out more about Oracle’s work on these services.

Watch the complete video interview below, and be sure to check out more of SiliconANGLE’s and theCUBE’s CUBEConversations.

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