Comments on: Eli Hernández of TheEyeWorks Makes Jokes About Dead Two-Year-Olds

By: rizzn

rizzn — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:00:45 +0000

What you said was offensive. I blogged this on my *personal* blog, not my *professional* blog.

Humor, no matter what variety, was not in good taste. You don't make jokes about the dead - that's just common courtesy. This woman, and her child, were real people, not characters in a movie.

Have some decency.

Should you apologize for anything you said, I'll update the post with that information. Short of that, don't expect any apologies for my documentation of your actions.

By: rizzn

rizzn — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:37:24 +0000

Doesn't matter. He's an EVP at the company. At that level of management, he represents the company, particularly when he's engaging on topics of social media, which is a purported expertise of your organization.

By: Ramir Camu

Ramir Camu — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:18:28 +0000

You are assuming Eli has direct involvement with the clients you handpicked, which is completely inaccurate. These are clients TheEyeWorks has provided services for not related to PR and none are accounts Eli has had direct interaction with. So they are not his clients, as you put it. So technically yes, what you wrote is inaccurate and misleading.

By: rizzn

rizzn — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:07:27 +0000

You will hafta worry if you don't want to be stuck with my legal fees when the case gets thrown out.

It isn't slander if it's true.

I didn't say anything that wasn't true.

By: Ramir Camu

Ramir Camu — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:03:45 +0000

I'm not the one that has to worry about the definition.

You definitely have the right to free speech, everyone does, it doesn't mean there are no consequences. It is truly unfortunate that you decided to exercise your right to free speech in this manner, by turning a discussion between 2 individuals into a cheap shot against an organization and its clients.

By: rizzn

rizzn — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:16:23 +0000

Incidentally, here's the link, since we're threatening legal action at each other and all, that shows the connection between the Twitter account and your job, Eli.

By: rizzn

rizzn — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:58:51 +0000

Look up the definition of slander and libel. I won't waste time on it, but what I did isn't either of those things. This is something you should know in your line of work.

Eli's personal account linked to his company, and he tweeted work related links. How do you think I found out where he worked?

I have a right to free speech. All I've done is document Eli's work, which was plainly linked to his account and what he said. I'm within my legal rights.

By: rizzn

rizzn — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:58:51 +0000

Look up the definition of slander and libel. I won't waste time on it, but what I did isn't either of those things. This is something you should know in your line of work.

Eli's personal account linked to his company, and he tweeted work related links. How do you think I found out where he worked?

I have a right to free speech. All I've done is document Eli's work, which was plainly linked to his account and what he said. I'm within my legal rights.

By: Ramir Camu

Ramir Camu — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:05:34 +0000

Mark,

I am completely in shock that you decided to turn a personal discussion between two individuals into a slander campaign against TheEyeWorks. Eli was tweeting under his personal account and in no moment did he mention TheEyeWorks. For you to turn around and drag TheEyeWorks and our clients into this is completely unprofessional and uncalled for. I am requesting as CEO of TheEyeWorks that you retract your blog post immediately. Furthermore, we are prepared to bring legal action against you, should any relationship with our clients be compromised due to your tirade.

I hope you seriously reconsider this and make things right by keeping a personal discussion, personal as it should have remained from the beginning.

Ramir Camu

By: Eli Hernandez

Eli Hernandez — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:44:18 +0000

MARK:

It is unfortunate that what was a "food fight" between you and I on Twitter, YOU have now escalated the matter.

There are many people on Twitter that have disagreements and debates - ours was not the last. Thus, this was a debate between you and I!

For clarification sake: The point I attempted to make is that a sane person would not dive into Twitter upon the death of their child.

Additionally, you do not have the common sense to understand sarcastic humor. Obviously, I would mourn the death of a child - it was the reaction of the mother that I was responding to.

What you have done however is to drag our agency name into this discussion.

My views are my personal views. At no time during our debate did I mention our agency name, nor was I on offical agency business.

You can accuse me of anything (within reason) and say almost anything about ME! BUT, you have brought in the good name of an entire organization and legitimate business into this discussion.

If you continue in this vein, you will be held liable and responsible for any negative ramifications or consequences to our business.

Not only are you childish in your behaviour, YOU are unethical and unprofessional in your actions!

Remove this post from your blog immediately!