Comments on: In Response To, or Agreement With, @stevenhodson on Healthcare http://siliconangle.com/rizzn/2010/01/20/in-response-to-or-agreement-with-stevenhodson-on-healthcare/ Radically Transparent!!!1!111!! Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:36:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rizzn http://siliconangle.com/rizzn/2010/01/20/in-response-to-or-agreement-with-stevenhodson-on-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-274 rizzn Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:19:02 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/rizzn/2010/01/20/in-response-to-or-agreement-with-stevenhodson-on-healthcare/#comment-274 Not sure where you're shopping for health insurance, but I haven't found that many health plans much over $500 a month for full families. The most expensive one we were pitched was $600, and most fell within the $200-400 range. I'm an experienced bargain shopper, though. It's sort of my thing. Still, it's not hard to shop for price. There's hundreds of insurance affiliate salespeople out there, and Texas is far from a magical land of cheapness. Maybe what I said was insulting - I dunno - it's just how I see it. My wife and I have worked hard to get where I have, and I've taken very few handouts in my lifetime. What I find insulting, and always have, is that the government should tell me that I *must* sacrifice part of my income to health insurance if I don't wanna (and then pay a penalty if I don't do it). I find it insulting that others thing they're entitled to the money I work exceedingly hard for to pay for their health. It's not my duty to provide for folks' privileges, like improved health. I really enjoy knowing you and many of the other folks from the other side of the aisle on this health care debate - so don't get me wrong. I don't hate you. I don't wish you dead. But I'm horribly insulted that you think that my money is better spent on your healthcare than my own kids or my own life. It pisses me off. Your privilege is not my responsibility! Is there some messed up things about health care in this country? Yes. Can it be fixed? Yes. Will making me pay for your crap at the point of a gun fix it? No. Not sure where you're shopping for health insurance, but I haven't found that many health plans much over $500 a month for full families. The most expensive one we were pitched was $600, and most fell within the $200-400 range.

I'm an experienced bargain shopper, though. It's sort of my thing.

Still, it's not hard to shop for price. There's hundreds of insurance affiliate salespeople out there, and Texas is far from a magical land of cheapness.

Maybe what I said was insulting - I dunno - it's just how I see it. My wife and I have worked hard to get where I have, and I've taken very few handouts in my lifetime.

What I find insulting, and always have, is that the government should tell me that I *must* sacrifice part of my income to health insurance if I don't wanna (and then pay a penalty if I don't do it). I find it insulting that others thing they're entitled to the money I work exceedingly hard for to pay for their health.

It's not my duty to provide for folks' privileges, like improved health. I really enjoy knowing you and many of the other folks from the other side of the aisle on this health care debate - so don't get me wrong. I don't hate you. I don't wish you dead. But I'm horribly insulted that you think that my money is better spent on your healthcare than my own kids or my own life. It pisses me off. Your privilege is not my responsibility!

Is there some messed up things about health care in this country? Yes. Can it be fixed? Yes. Will making me pay for your crap at the point of a gun fix it? No.

]]> By: @KLaCapria http://siliconangle.com/rizzn/2010/01/20/in-response-to-or-agreement-with-stevenhodson-on-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-273 @KLaCapria Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:51:54 +0000 http://siliconangle.com/rizzn/2010/01/20/in-response-to-or-agreement-with-stevenhodson-on-healthcare/#comment-273 I'm cross posting my comment to you on Steve's post, since it's fairly effortless to do so :) I agree that healthcare is a cost we all must bear to receive decent healthcare. However, Mark, I don't know where you live but the $50 a month you cite, I would GLADLY pay to be covered. Up here in New York it would cost $800 to insure myself and my two children per MONTH with a basic plan and no prescriptions. High deductibles. Hell, I'd pay $200 a month easy to insure JUST MYSELF. The healthcare reform initiative is not about handouts or paying doctors with magic rainbow money that came from a unicorn's ass. It's about the cost of basic healthcare far outstripping the means of a typical family. Yes, I could move out of New York to whatever place magically covers a family of four for $200 a month. I could leave my whole family and friends and life in New York and find some place I could afford healthcare. But what is so wrong with wanting to break up the profiteering and wholesale bankrupting of Americans? I'd rather live where I'm from and pay a reasonable portion of my income to healthcare, so I can go back to skating without worrying about what will happen if I break my leg or sprain something. It's insulting you'd assume people like me would rather have the extra $50 a week than be able to see a doctor. It's not the issue at all, and on some basic level you have to know that. It's intellectually dishonest. I'm cross posting my comment to you on Steve's post, since it's fairly effortless to do so :)

I agree that healthcare is a cost we all must bear to receive decent healthcare.

However, Mark, I don't know where you live but the $50 a month you cite, I would GLADLY pay to be covered. Up here in New York it would cost $800 to insure myself and my two children per MONTH with a basic plan and no prescriptions. High deductibles. Hell, I'd pay $200 a month easy to insure JUST MYSELF.

The healthcare reform initiative is not about handouts or paying doctors with magic rainbow money that came from a unicorn's ass. It's about the cost of basic healthcare far outstripping the means of a typical family.

Yes, I could move out of New York to whatever place magically covers a family of four for $200 a month. I could leave my whole family and friends and life in New York and find some place I could afford healthcare. But what is so wrong with wanting to break up the profiteering and wholesale bankrupting of Americans? I'd rather live where I'm from and pay a reasonable portion of my income to healthcare, so I can go back to skating without worrying about what will happen if I break my leg or sprain something.

It's insulting you'd assume people like me would rather have the extra $50 a week than be able to see a doctor. It's not the issue at all, and on some basic level you have to know that. It's intellectually dishonest.

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