Hackers share information about targets and tools to attack them, giving them a potential edge against individual companies aiming to protect themselves. Meanwhile, persuading a company to share their data on attacks is like pulling teeth.

That needs to change, says Ted Julian (pictured), co-founder and vice president of product management at IBM Resilient. “It’s only when the good guys share what they’re experiencing we’ll turn the tables on the bad guys,” he said.

Julian joined Jeff Frick (@JeffFrick), co-host of theCUBE, SiliconANGLE’s mobile live-streaming studio, in San Francisco at the RSA Conference, the information security industry’s biggest event of the year. They spoke about computer security, sharing data and managing the response to an attack.

Beyond the era of prevention

The conversation opened as Julian laid down the truth about cybersecurity. “We’re not winning,” he said, citing a survey that reported 70 percent of organizations did not have an instant response plan in case of a breach. There’s a lot of work to be done to do better.

The best in the business are getting better, Julian said. The challenge is to percolate that improvement down through the marketplace. For its part, Resilient offers customers a platform to create a consistent and repeatable process to deal with the inevitable breach when it happens.

“What’s been a challenge is getting people comfortable with contributing their data,” Julian said. Companies would rather not go public about attacks against them and what they did in response. The industry is still figuring out how to give back enough value to make sharing this delicate information worthwhile, he added.

“We’ve gone from the era of prevention, and now it’s all about response,” Julian said. That’s where Resilient is focused. It has built its platform from the ground up to help tie together the people and technology around an instant response. “For us, it’s about empowering the human,” Julian said.

Watch the complete video interview below, and be sure to check out more of SiliconANGLE’s and theCUBE’s on-the-ground coverage of the RSA Conference 2017.

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