“If companies are running their security the same way they have for the past five years, they are absolutely insane,” said Alan Cohen, CCO at Illumio, Inc. Cohen sat down with John Furrier, cohost of theCUBE, from the SiliconANGLE Media team, during Amazon re:Invent 2015 in Las Vegas.

Drawing from a quote Cohen attributes to Albert Einstein, “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.” Cohen remarked on the great shifts in security. The “number one variable is timing” in the event of a security breach. These factors represent part of the company’s new marketing campaign: “Better, Faster, Stronger.”

Cybersecurity spending to skyrocket

During the interview, Cohen also described the changes within the security world, saying, “Infrastructure has to compete for applications– not the other way around.” He continued by calling DevOps the “fast crowd” that is “in charge of budget and decision making” as an ever-increasing rate. Illumnio is “growing rapidly,” and the 140-person company is definitely hiring.

Cohen cited a figure of an annual spending of $75 billion on cybersecurity, which he estimated to be growing five times faster than the amount spent on IT. He predicted that in 2020, the industry could be seeing spending on cybersecurity rocketing to a whopping $150-200 billion annually.

Security is no longer about defense

Cohen also announced that next week Illumio will releasing research based on interviews with 1,000 IT professionals. The findings are that the number one issue in IT is containment. Cohen said that the approach to security is “no longer about defense.” Most successful security systems “assume they’re already in,” and the challenge lies in “what’s the blast radius once they are in?” Based on these factors, Cohen predicted that in the next 12 months, the security conversation will dominated by containment.

Watch the full video interview below, and be sure to check out more of SiliconANGLE and theCUBE’s coverage of Amazon re:Invent 2015. And join in on the conversation by CrowdChatting with theCUBE hosts.

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