Artificial intelligence is an explosive technology, shaking up industries across the globe with promises of speed, accuracy and automation.

The technology, however, comes with several challenges, including the cost associated with high-performance hardware, including Nvidia GPUs. This forces tech leaders to be more thoughtful about their application and data layers.

“Kubernetes will be an incredible innovator around that, there’s no question, to help things pack together and so on,” said David Aronchick (pictured, right), chief executive at Expanso Inc. “But people, organizations that want to succeed, that take advantage of all these models will have to think about how to schedule against data, how to think about data, move data and at the application layer.”

Aronchick and Omri Gazitt (pictured), co-founder and chief executive officer at Aserto Inc., spoke with theCUBE industry analysts John Furrier and guest host Dustin Kirkland at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon NA, during an exclusive broadcast on theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media’s livestreaming studio. They discussed what advice they’d give to younger people looking to use AI, Expanso’s new product and what Astero has been working on. (* Disclosure below.)

Riding the next big wave

The AI wave is a generational shift, with younger generations learning to embrace emerging technology, especially those looking to enter the tech industry. Aronchick and Gazitt discussed what young people should be focusing on in terms of advancing AI and its uses.

“The level of capability that you now have as a developer is staggering,” Gazitt said. “Today’s university grads really would be served well to go look at all the amazing stuff available to them. CoPilot is a small example of that. Every student should go and use the latest and greatest tools because that will make them so much more productive than they can be without them.”

Expanso’s new open-source product, Bacalhau, which means cod in Portuguese—because Expanso is all about “compute over data,” was also talked about. With Bacalhau, users can execute fast, affordable and secure computation, enabling them to run compute jobs where data is both generated and stored, according to Aronchick.

“The second you get outside of a single zone or a single region, even if you’re entirely on a single cloud, you’re likely going to have to start having problems,” he added. “If I have images in South Korea and Brazil and Belgium, maybe I have regulations that don’t allow them to move … How do you take a model, for example, deploy it to all these places, build intelligence around it and then get only the results back? That’s what our platform is designed to build for.”

Astero and what it has been working on, as well as what’s on the horizon for the company was also talked about by Aronchick and Gazitt. This month, the company celebrates its third birthday and the first birthday of Topaz, its open-sourced project, with version 0.30 launched just last week.

“(This release) brings together the best ideas that we know about in authorization,” Gazitt said. “One of them is Open Policy Agent policy as code. The other is from Google with the Zanzibar project over there. They wrote the Zanzibar paper, now, about three years ago. We read it just when we started the company, and we decided that we’re going to be the first platform that brings policy as code and policy as data together in a single open-source project.”

Here’s the complete video interview, part of SiliconANGLE’s and theCUBE’s coverage of KubeCon + CloudNativeCon NA:

(* Disclosure: TheCUBE is a paid media partner for KubeCon + CloudNativeCon NA. Neither Red Hat Inc. and CNCF, the main sponsors of theCUBE’s event coverage, nor other sponsors have editorial control over content on theCUBE or SiliconANGLE.)

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